WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6, 2019                                        1:00 P.M.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

                    OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, MARCH 5TH.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, MARCH 5TH

                    AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

                    ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY COLLEAGUES, THE GUESTS IN THE -- IN THE

                    CHAMBERS AND STAFF, I WOULD LIKE TO READ A QUOTE THIS AFTERNOON FROM

                    MAYA ANGELOU.  AND MAYA SAYS, IN HER INFINITE WISDOM, "THAT YOU

                    MAY ENCOUNTER MANY DEFEATS, BUT YOU MUST NOT BE DEFEATED; IN FACT, IT

                    MAY BE NECESSARY TO ENCOUNTER THE DEFEATS SO YOU CAN KNOW WHO YOU

                    ARE, WHAT YOU CAN RISE FROM AND HOW YOU CAN STILL COME OUT OF IT."

                    AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER, THAT IS BY MAYA ANGELOU.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A

                    CALENDAR, A MAIN CALENDAR.  AFTER THERE ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS OR

                    HOUSEKEEPINGS [SIC], WE WILL CONTINUE OUR CONSENT OF NEW BILLS

                    BEGINNING WITH CALENDAR NO. 82 ON PAGE 11.  WE WILL ALSO BE TAKING

                    UP RULES REPORT NOS. 35, 36 AND 37.  THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEES HAVE

                    YET TO MEET OFF THE FLOOR, MR. SPEAKER:  WE ARE NOW IN CORPORATIONS

                    AND WE WILL SOON BE IN HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH.  AND, CLEARLY,

                    BECAUSE WE'RE IN A BUDGET SEASON, MAJORITY MEMBERS, THERE WILL BE A

                    NEED FOR A DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE AT THE CONCLUSION OF TODAY'S

                    SESSION.  AND AS ALWAYS, WE WILL GIVE CONSIDERATION TO SEE WHAT OUR

                    COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE WILL BE DOING.

                                 WITH THAT AS A GENERAL OUTLINE, MR. SPEAKER, IF THERE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND HOUSEKEEPING, WE SHOULD TAKE THOSE UP NOW.

                    THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY, AND WE

                    HAVE BOTH, MADAM MAJORITY LEADER.  HOUSEKEEPING FIRST.

                                 AT THE REQUEST OF MR. -- MS. WRIGHT, THE FOLLOWING

                    BILL, CALENDAR NO. 56, NO. A1890, COMMITTEE:  GOVERNMENTAL

                    OPERATIONS ARE RECOMMITTED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL

                    OPERATIONS.

                                 AS WELL AS THE -- MR. BRAUNSTEIN'S BILL, CALENDAR NO.

                    27, BILL NO. A2056, THE COMMITTEE ON CODES.  THAT BILL IS ALSO

                    RECOMMITTED BACK TO CODES.

                                 FOR THE PURPOSES OF A [SIC] INTRODUCTION, MS.

                    BUTTENSCHON.

                                 MS. BUTTENSCHON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,

                    AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERRUPT OUR PROCEEDINGS TO

                    WELCOME EOP STUDENTS TO THE ASSEMBLY CHAMBER.  THE STATE

                    UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM PROVIDES

                    ACCESS TO ACADEMIC SUPPORT AND FINANCIAL AID TO OUR STUDENTS WHO SHOW

                    PROMISE FOR SUCCEEDING IN COLLEGE, BUT MAY HAVE NOT OTHERWISE BEEN

                    ABLE TO ATTEND.  I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT THE EOP PROGRAM WILL BE OFFERED

                    IN MY DISTRICT AT MOHAWK VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THE UPCOMING

                    YEAR.

                                 TODAY, WE HAVE STUDENTS WITH US FROM SUNY STONY

                    BROOK.  WE HAVE PRINCESS KABLAN, ROCHELLE SMITH, SARA FAYED,

                    TRENAE KA AND DESANY PEREZ.  SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    AND ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING.  AT THIS TIME, I ASK THAT YOU OFFER THE

                    CORDIALITIES OF OUR HOUSE TO OUR STUDENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. BUTTENSCHON, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME

                    YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE ASSEMBLY HAS LONG

                    BEEN A SUPPORTER OF EOP AND WE HOPE YOU ENJOY THAT EXPERIENCE,

                    BENEFIT FROM THAT EXPERIENCE AND COME BACK AND VISIT US SOON.  THANK

                    YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 AND THAT'S ALSO ON BEHALF OF MS. JOYNER.  EXCUSE ME,

                    MS. JOYNER.

                                 MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'D LIKE TO

                    INTRODUCE TO MY COLLEAGUES IN THE ASSEMBLY AND THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE,

                    ANGIE DILL, WHO'S HERE VISITING TODAY.  SHE IS A CONSTITUENT OF

                    ASSEMBLYMAN ASHBY AND SHE'S AN 8TH GRADER AT CAMBRIDGE CENTRAL

                    SCHOOLS.  ANGIE WAS PART OF A PROJECT WHERE SHE NEEDED TO THINK ABOUT

                    WHAT CAREER SHE MIGHT WISH TO FOLLOW IN HER FUTURE, AND SHE WAS

                    INTERESTED IN LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT POLITICS.  SO, I'M VERY

                    HAPPY TO HAVE HER SHADOW ME TODAY.  SHE IS A VERY THOUGHTFUL YOUNG

                    LADY AND A VERY SMART ONE, AND A VERY STRONG ONE, TOO, BECAUSE SHE'S

                    BEEN LIFTING CHAIRS ALL DAY IN AND OUT OF MY OFFICE FOR ALL THE GROUPS

                    COMING IN AND OUT.

                                 IN HER SPARE TEAM BESIDES POLITICS, SHE IS ON THE

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                    WRESTLING TEAM, RIGHT?  THE WRESTLING TEAM.  SO, WOULD YOU PLEASE, MR.

                    SPEAKER, WELCOME ANGIE TO THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE ON BEHALF OF MYSELF

                    AND ASSEMBLYMAN ASHBY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. WALSH, MR. ASHBY, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE

                    WELCOME YOU HERE, ANGIE, TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO

                    YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, COMMEND YOU ON THE VOLUNTEER WORK

                    THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE ASSEMBLYWOMAN, AND THAT WILL MAKE A

                    POWERFUL COMBINATION, A WRESTLER AND AN INTELLECT.  THANK YOU SO VERY

                    MUCH.  WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. PICHARDO.

                                 MR. PICHARDO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS.  ON THE THEME OF COLLEGE

                    AFFORDABILITY, WITH US -- JOINING US HERE IN THE CHAMBER WE HAVE THE

                    ASSOCIATION OF PROPRIETARY COLLEGES AND SOME OF THE STUDENTS AND STAFF

                    ARE HERE TO JOIN US HERE TODAY.  I WANT TO SHOUT OUT PARTICULARLY SOME OF

                    THE STUDENTS WHO ARE JOINING HERE WITH US ADVOCATING FOR THEIR ISSUES

                    AND COLLEGE AFFORDABILITY:  DONNA RUIZ, JESSICA VELEZ, TIERRA

                    JEFFERSON, STEPHEN STIEFLER AND DIANA PERRY.  IF I BUTCHERED YOUR

                    NAMES, I DO APOLOGIZE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK THESE

                    YOUNG PEOPLE FOR THEIR ADVOCACY AND THEIR HARD WORK IN MAKING SURE

                    THAT FOLKS CAN AFFORD COLLEGE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I ASK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, IF YOU CAN EXTEND TO THEM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE AS

                    THEY WATCH THE PROCEEDINGS HERE TODAY.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. PICHARDO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE

                    EXCELLENT STUDENTS HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO

                    YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE

                    DOING FOR OTHER STUDENTS, BECAUSE AFFORDABILITY IS KEY TO AN ADVANCED

                    SOCIETY SO WE CAN AFFORD TO SEND OUR CHILDREN TO COLLEGE AND THEY CAN

                    IMPROVE THE WORLD.  THANK YOU, AND WE HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO

                    THAT WORK.  THANK YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

                    SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS.  AND ON BEHALF

                    OF THE WESTERN NEW YORK DELEGATION, IT IS MY PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO

                    WELCOME SEVERAL STUDENTS FROM BRYANT AND STRATTON COLLEGE.  THEY

                    HAVE CAMPUSES IN BUFFALO AND WHAT WE CALL SOUTHTOWNS, WHICH, NO

                    SURPRISE, IS SOUTH BUFFALO.  AND WITH US IS FRAN FELSER, PAUL BAHR,

                    COLLEEN REEDY, ANGIE BUDDIE, STEVE MAKOSY, DIANA PERRY, TIERRA

                    JEFFERSON, JESSICA VELEZ, DONNA RUIZ, STEPHEN STIEFLER.  AND FROM

                    JAMESTOWN BUSINESS COLLEGE, WHICH IS IN MY HOME DISTRICT, WE HAVE

                    WITH US PAMELA REESE, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE DEAN; YANIRA

                    CAS -- CASTA -- CASTELLANO - I'M GETTING THERE - THE ONLY ONE I'VE

                    INTRODUCED FOUR TIMES SO FAR ON THE FLOOR; AND ROSANNA CONCEPCION.

                    GREAT GROUP OF STUDENTS AND FACULTY VISITING US TODAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. GOODELL, THE WESTERN NEW YORK DELEGATION, THE SPEAKER AND

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME BOTH STUDENTS AND ADVISORS HERE TO THE

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  EXTEND TO YOU, ALSO, THE PRIVILEGES OF THE

                    FLOOR.  HOPE YOU ENJOY THIS VISIT TO ALBANY AND THAT IT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL.

                    THANK YOU, AND CONTINUE YOUR GREAT WORK.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. JOYNER.

                                 MS. JOYNER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS.  I WANTED TO JUST JOIN WITH

                    MY COLLEAGUES IN WELCOMING EOP STUDENTS FROM STONY BROOK

                    UNIVERSITY, BUT A SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO MS. CHERYL HAMILTON, MS.

                    PATRICIA RASSO, MS. PAMELA MATZNER.  THEY WERE MY BACKBONE AT

                    STONY BROOK UNIVERSITY WHERE -- MADE ME WHO I AM TODAY AND THE

                    REASON WHY I AM HERE TODAY.  THEY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS WONDERFUL

                    PROGRAM HERE IN THE ASSEMBLY AND THE INTERNSHIP AND I WOULD NOT BE

                    WHO I AM TODAY WITHOUT THESE WONDERFUL LADIES, AND I'M JUST SO

                    THANKFUL THAT THEY BROUGHT UP STONY BROOK STUDENTS AND ARE CONTINUING

                    TO GUIDE THE WAY FOR THOSE FOLLOWING BEHIND US.  SO THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. JOYNER, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, AGAIN, WELCOME HERE

                    TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  AND TO THOSE OF YOU WHO CAUSED US

                    TO ENJOY AND BENEFIT FROM THE BENEFIT OF MS. JOYNER'S TERM WITH US, WE

                    THANK YOU ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE SHE IS A VALUED MEMBER OF THIS HOUSE

                    AND THIS CONFERENCE.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS FOR AN INTRODUCTION.  TODAY,

                    MARCH 6TH, 2019, IS WORLD LYMPHEDEMA DAY.  AS WE CELEBRATE IN AN

                    EFFORT TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THIS CHRONIC DISEASE, I HAVE THE GREAT HONOR

                    OF BEING JOINED BY NOT ONLY THE WORLD'S LEADING LYMPHEDEMA RESEARCH

                    AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION, BUT BY SOME OF THE LEADING ADVOCATES AND

                    CHAMPIONS FOR FINDING A CURE FOR LYMPHEDEMA.  LYMPHEDEMA AND

                    LYMPHATIC DISEASES AFFECT 10 MILLION AMERICANS, MORE THAN 500,000

                    NEW YORKERS AND 250 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD; YET, THE

                    DISEASE FAILS TO GARNER THE ATTENTION IT DEMANDS.

                                 LYMPHEDEMA, WHICH CAN CAUSE PAINFUL SWELLING OR

                    DISFIGURATION OF THE EXTREMITIES, AFFECTS ROUGHLY 30 PERCENT OF ALL

                    BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS AND AFFLICTS MANY WHO'VE HAD THEIR LYMPHATIC

                    SYSTEM COMPROMISED THROUGH PHYSICAL TRAUMA.  FOR SOME, IT IS AN

                    INHERITED DISEASE.  IN 2014, NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE WAS THE FIRST

                    LEGISLATURE IN THE WORLD TO RECOGNIZE WORLD LYMPHEDEMA DAY, AND WE

                    HAVE DONE SO EACH YEAR SINCE.

                                 SO, NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE INCREDIBLE

                    CHAMPIONS FOR LYMPHEDEMA CURE HERE WITH US IN THE CAPITOL TODAY.

                    FIRST UP, WE HAVE ONE OF THE FIERCEST ADVOCATE DUOS I KNOW WHO ARE

                    CONSTITUENTS OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER SANTABARBARA:  EMMA DETLEFSEN AND

                    HER MOTHER, TIFFANY DETLEFSEN.  THEY'RE HERE FROM BERNE, NEW YORK.

                    EMMA IS TEN AND HAS BEEN FIGHTING IN ALBANY, AROUND THE STATE AND IN

                    D.C. AS WELL FOR LYMPHEDEMA AWARENESS FOR YEARS.  HER MOTHER,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    TIFFANY, IS A MEMBER OF THE NEW YORK CHAPTER FOR LYMPHEDEMA

                    EDUCATION AND RESEARCH NETWORK AND IS A TRUE CHAMPION FOR THEIR

                    CAUSE.

                                 FROM THE LYMPHEDEMA EDUCATION AND RESEARCH

                    NETWORK, WE HAVE THEIR OUTREACH DIRECTOR COLLEEN MCGUIRE, ALONG

                    WITH HER SON, MICHAEL MCGUIRE, WHO OFTEN VOLUNTEERS FOR THE CAUSE.

                    AND ALSO FROM LE&RN, WE HAVE STEVE PALMER, MEDIA DIRECTOR FOR THE

                    ORGANIZATION.  AND, FINALLY, FROM THE LE&RN TEAM, WE HAVE THE

                    FEARLESS AND ALL-AROUND SPECTACULAR PRESIDENT AND CEO OF LE&RN,

                    BILL REPICCI.  AND LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WE ARE JOINED BY

                    CONSTITUENTS OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER JEAN-PIERRE:  TINA HIMAYA AND HER

                    PARENTS, JILL AND EMAD HIMAYA, WHO WE WILL BE ADOPTING A RESOLUTION

                    TO HONOR LATER TODAY.  EMAD HAS LYMPHEDEMA, AND TINA WAS BORN WITH

                    PRIMARY LYMPHEDEMA.

                                 TOGETHER WITH THESE ADVOCATES, WE WILL ENSURE

                    LYMPHEDEMA FINALLY GARNERS THE ATTENTION IT DEMANDS.  LAST YEAR, WE

                    PASSED A FIRST-IN-THE-NATION LAW REQUIRING ALL GENERAL HOSPITALS IN NEW

                    YORK TO DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION PACKETS TO THOSE AT RISK OF DEVELOPING

                    LYMPHEDEMA.  WITH NEW YORK AS THE MODEL, THIS IS A TEMPLATE THAT

                    LE&RN IS NOW BRINGING AROUND THE COUNTRY TO OTHER STATES.  IT'S BEEN A

                    PLEASURE TO HAVE THEM HERE TODAY AND, MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU PLEASE

                    EXTEND TO THEM ALL THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. ROSENTHAL, MR. SANTABARBARA, MS. JEAN-PIERRE, THE SPEAKER AND

                    ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THIS DISTINGUISHED GROUP HERE TO THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THE GREAT

                    WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND TO YOU, EMMA, A SPECIAL THANK YOU FOR

                    SPENDING YOUR TIME HELPING OTHERS, EVEN AS YOU SUFFER AND FIGHT THE

                    DISEASE YOURSELF.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  CONTINUE THAT GREAT WORK

                    AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 151, MS.

                    ROSENTHAL.  LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW

                    M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MARCH 6, 2019 AS LYMPHEDEMA DAY IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OBSERVANCE OF THE FOURTH

                    ANNUAL WORLD LYMPHEDEMA DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 152, MR.

                    CYMBROWITZ.  LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    ANDREW M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MARCH 2019 AS COLORECTAL CANCER

                    AWARENESS MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTIONS

                    [SIC], ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE

                    RESOLUTIONS [SIC] ARE ADOPTED.

                                 PAGE 11, CALENDAR NO. 82, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04072, CALENDAR NO.

                    82, GOTTFRIED.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    OFFERING PLANT-BASED FOOD OPTIONS IN HOSPITALS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 365TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, TO REMIND THE -- MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS IS OUR FIRST VOTE OF THE

                    DAY.  SO, IF YOU ARE IN THE CHAMBERS OR ANYWHERE IN AND AROUND, IF YOU

                    WOULD PLEASE COME AND CAST YOUR VOTE, IT WOULD BE GREATLY

                    APPRECIATED.  IT'S THE FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY.

                    IN THE SOUNDS OF OUR VOICE, PLEASE COME TO THE CHAMBER AND CAST YOUR

                    BALLOT.  IF YOU ARE IN YOUR SEATS, PLEASE VOTE NOW.  IF YOU'RE SOMEWHERE

                    ELSE, COME HOME QUICKLY.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04081, CALENDAR NO.

                    83, D'URSO, ARROYO.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    THE DATE FOR FILING THE CERTIFICATE OF NOMINATION FOR NEW PARTIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  CORPORATIONS HAS COMPLETED THEIR WORK, SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE

                    CALL THE MENTAL HEALTH COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MENTAL HEALTH,

                    SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.  MRS. GUNTHER WILL AWAIT YOU THERE.

                    PLEASE GO IMMEDIATELY.

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04336, CALENDAR NO.

                    84, WEPRIN, BLAKE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO THE REPORT THE CORRECTION MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD IS REQUIRED TO ISSUE

                    REGARDING THE DEATH OF ANY INMATE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05312, CALENDAR NO.

                    85, LUPARDO, STIRPE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE AGRICULTURE AND MARKETS

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND MARKETS MAKING

                    AVAILABLE INFORMATION CONCERNING MINIMUM GUIDELINES FOR VEGETATION

                    MANAGEMENT PLANS IN A MANNER THAT IS POLLINATOR FRIENDLY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    -- MS. LUPARDO, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE HEALTH COMMITTEE TO THE

                    SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM, THE HEALTH COMMITTEE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  HEALTH COMMITTEE,

                    SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.  MR. GOTTFRIED WILL BE THERE WAITING FOR

                    YOU.  THANK YOU.

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05500, CALENDAR NO.

                    86, SIMON, STIRPE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    ELIGIBILITY FOR TUITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AWARDS FOR CERTAIN

                    UNDERGRADUATES WHO MUST TRANSFER TO ANOTHER INSTITUTION AS A RESULT OF A

                    PERMANENT COLLEGE CLOSURE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERRUPT OUR PROCEEDINGS BRIEFLY TO

                    INTRODUCE SOME REALLY GREAT CITIZENS WHO ARE IN OUR CHAMBERS TODAY.

                    THESE WOMEN ARE ALL ENGAGED WITH THE WOMEN'S BUILDING COUNCIL.

                    AND SO, IF YOU COULD PLEASE WELCOME THEM TO OUR CHAMBERS.  WE HAVE

                    SANDRA WILKIN, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF BRADFORD

                    CONSTRUCTION AND FOUNDER OF THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS COUNCIL; AND THE

                    GODMOTHER OF THE MWBE MOVEMENT, WE HAVE RENEE SACKS, WHO IS

                    THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS COUNCIL WHO HELPS

                    MWBE BUSINESSES IN CONSTRUCTION TRADES.  WE HAVE DEBORAH BRADLEY

                    WHO IS THE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS COUNCIL.  WE ALSO

                    HAVE EILEEN DELLA VOLLE, WHO IS AN ENGINEER AND SHE'S A MEMBER OF THE

                    BUSINESS COUNCIL, AS WELL AS MAJA POPILEE (PHONETIC), WHO IS THE VICE

                    PRESIDENT OF AN ENGINEERING FIRM, AS WELL.  SO, MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU

                    COULD WELCOME THESE VERY ENTERPRISING ENTREPRENEURIAL WOMEN TO OUR

                    CHAMBERS, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, TO THE PEOPLE'S

                    HOUSE.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, AND HOW

                    APPROPRIATE THAT YOU SHARE IN THIS WITH US IN WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH,

                    BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU ARE WOMEN WHO HAVE ALREADY MADE HISTORY AND

                    WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.  THANK YOU, AND CONGRATULATIONS.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF WE COULD

                    TURN OUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 4, WE WANT TO GO TO RULES REPORT NOS. 35,

                    36 AND 37.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00412-B, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 35, JAFFEE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO THE LICENSURE, REGISTRATION AND REQUIRED INSPECTIONS,

                    BACKGROUND CLEARANCES AND TRAINING FOR CHILD CARE PROVIDERS; AND TO

                    REPEAL CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF SUCH LAW RELATING THERETO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON APRIL 1ST,

                    2019.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

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                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF I COULD

                    BRIEFLY INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT RULES

                    REPORT ITEM, TO INTRODUCE A VERY SPECIAL GUEST THAT'S IN THE CHAMBERS

                    WITH US TODAY.  HER NAME IS ALEXANDRA STECK.  SHE'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT

                    TO HER DAD.  ALEXANDRA IS A GRADUATE - YOU WANT TO STAND UP, SWEETIE?

                    YOU'RE STUNNING, BEAUTIFUL.  ALEXANDRA IS A GRADUATE OF SMITH COLLEGE

                    WHERE SHE MAJORED IN CHEMISTRY.  SHE IS NOW A PRE-MED STUDENT AT

                    TEMPLE UNIVERSITY IN THE GREAT CITY OF PHILADELPHIA.  SO, LET'S WELCOME

                    HER TO OUR CHAMBER.  WE'RE SO VERY PROUD OF HER.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 ALEXANDRA, STAND UP, SWEETIE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, ALEXANDRA,

                    WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU WITH US HERE TODAY.  I'M SURE YOUR FATHER IS

                    DULY PROUD; HE'S BEAMING, AND THAT'S NOT AN OFTEN CIRCUMSTANCE FOR US.

                                 (LAUGHTER)

                                 SO, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE YOU.  YOU'RE FAMILY, SO YOU ARE

                    ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00558-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 36, L. ROSENTHAL, DINOWITZ, MOSLEY, JAFFEE, GALEF, THIELE,

                    FINCH, RIVERA, SIMON, ORTIZ, VANEL, DICKENS, D'URSO, LAVINE,

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                    SEAWRIGHT, DE LA ROSA, CRESPO, BICHOTTE, GLICK, LIFTON, FAHY,

                    WEPRIN, ZEBROWSKI, TAYLOR, PERRY, ABINANTI, PAULIN, COOK, GOTTFRIED,

                    EPSTEIN, BUTTENSCHON, MONTESANO, JACOBSON, SMULLEN, SAYEGH,

                    ROMEO, REYES, FALL, RODRIGUEZ, B. MILLER, GRIFFIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND

                    THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AND THE PENAL LAW, IN RELATION TO INCREASING THE

                    PURCHASING AGE FOR TOBACCO PRODUCTS FROM 18 TO 21.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MS. ROSENTHAL.  MEMBERS, WE ARE ON DEBATE.  SHH.  IF YOU'RE

                    IN THE AISLES, PLEASE CLEAR THEM, HAVE SEATS.  PROCEED.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS

                    BILL AIMS TO IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH OUTCOMES AND PREVENT THOUSANDS OF

                    AVOIDABLE DEATHS BY INCREASING THE AGE AT WHICH INDIVIDUALS MAY

                    PURCHASE TOBACCO AND VAPE PRODUCTS FROM 18 YEARS OF AGE TO 21 YEARS

                    OF AGE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WILL YOU YIELD, MS.

                    ROSENTHAL?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AM I CORRECT THAT UNDER CURRENT

                    LAW, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO

                    MAKE THIS CHANGE WITHOUT US ACTING?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND IF -- IF WE DO MAKE THIS

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                    CHANGE, AM I ALSO CORRECT THAT ALL THE ENFORCEMENT OBLIGATIONS AND

                    EXPENSE ARE BORNE BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES, EXCEPT IN THE CASE WHERE

                    THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MECHANISM TO ENFORCE IT, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF

                    HEALTH WOULD.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THIS BILL WOULD BAN THE SALE OF

                    TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO ANYONE UNDER 21.  DOES IT PREVENT THE USE OF

                    TOBACCO PRODUCTS UNDER AGE 21?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  NO.  THIS BILL PERTAINS ONLY TO

                    SALE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO, IF SOMEONE IS CAUGHT,

                    SO-TO-SPEAK, OR FOUND IN POSSESSION OF CIGARETTES AND THEY'RE A YOUNG

                    PERSON, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE IN POSSESSION OR SMOKING WOULD NOT

                    SUBJECT THEM TO ANY PENALTY?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  CORRECT.  IT MERELY ADDRESSES THE

                    SALE OF TOBACCO AND MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO SELL TO ANYONE YOUNGER THAN 21

                    YEARS OF AGE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  DOES THIS BILL EXEMPT FROM ITS

                    SCOPE ANY OF THE MILITARY BASES THAT WE HAVE IN NEW YORK STATE, LIKE

                    FORT DRUM OR OTHERS?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  NO, IT DOESN'T AND ACTUALLY THE

                    MILITARY DOES SUPPORT THESE KINDS OF EFFORTS AND THEY -- THEY TRIED TO --

                    THEY HAVE - THEY TRY TO DISCOURAGE AND THEY DO DISCOURAGE USE OF

                    TOBACCO BY MEMBERS WHO ARE IN THE MILITARY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  FROM A LIBERTARIAN PERSPECTIVE,

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                    THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT QUESTION WHY IT IS WE WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE

                    TO VOTE IN A PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, REGISTER TO VOTE WHEN THEY'RE 16 OR

                    17; WE ALLOW THEM TO DRIVE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR AIRCRAFT IN THE MILITARY

                    OR EVEN DEFEND OUR COUNTRY ON THE FRONT LINES WHEN THEY'RE 18; WE

                    ALLOW SOMEONE TO GET MARRIED WHEN THEY'RE 18; THEY CAN SIGN CONTRACTS

                    IF THEY'RE 18, BUT THEY CAN'T BUY A CIGARETTE UNTIL THEY'RE 21 UNDER THIS

                    BILL?  IS THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MILITARY THAT WE'RE

                    SENDING OUT ON THE FRONT LINES DON'T SUFFER PREMATURE DEATH FROM

                    CANCER?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WELL, IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT

                    PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN, BUT THERE ARE OTHER -- PEOPLE MAY NOT PURCHASE

                    ALCOHOL UNTIL THEY'RE 21, CAN'T RENT A HOTEL ROOM UNTIL THEY'RE 21.  THERE

                    ARE OTHER PROHIBITIONS IN THE LAW CONCERNING AGE 21.  BUT THIS IS A -- A

                    DRAMATIC -- A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN THAT AFFECTS INDIVIDUALS AND ALSO

                    AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE STATE WHICH ENDS UP PAYING -- CARRYING A

                    LOT OF COST OF THE ILLNESSES THAT PEOPLE GET.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF

                    STUDIES ON DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO REDUCE CIGARETTE CONSUMPTION AND

                    ADDICTION.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  INCLUDING ISSUES LIKE RESTRICTING THE

                    ADVERTISING, NOT HAVING ALL THE TOBACCO PRODUCTS RIGHT BEHIND THE

                    COUNTER, ADDRESSING YOU KNOW, MR. CAMEL COOL OR THE MARLBORO MAN

                    OR OTHER ISSUES THAT SEEM TO BE TARGETING YOUTH, DEALING WITH FLAVORED

                    TOBACCO PRODUCTS.  ARE ANY OF THOSE OTHER WELL-RECOGNIZED AND

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                    DOCUMENTED MECHANISMS TO REDUCE TEEN TOBACCO SMOKING INCLUDED IN

                    THIS BILL?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  MR. SPEAKER, CAN YOU GET SOME

                    SILENCE, PLEASE?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE CERTAINLY CAN.

                    LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, KEEP THE SMALL CONVERSATIONS SMALLER.  SHH.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  OKAY.  SO YOU CAN YOU REPEAT

                    THE LAST LINE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID?

                                 MR. GOODELL:  CERTAINLY.  I MENTIONED A NUMBER

                    OF INITIATIVES THAT THE TOBACCO CONTROL COALITION HAS BEEN URGING.  ARE

                    ANY OF THOSE INCLUDED IN THIS BILL?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR BILL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE.  DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF

                    WHAT THE COST WOULD BE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IF THIS WERE TO GO INTO

                    EFFECT?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  I DO NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY

                    CURRENTLY DEAL WITH UP TO AGE 18, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE OF A

                    BURDEN IT WOULD BE; HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE

                    PROTECTING THE HEALTH OF YOUNG PEOPLE.  AND THE FACT IS THAT IF PEOPLE

                    DO NOT START USING CIGARETTES BY THE AGE OF 19 OR 20, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT

                    THEY WILL BECOME ADDICTED TO CIGARETTES IS VERY LOW, AND THAT'S WHY

                    WE'RE SETTING IT AT 21 TO STOP IT BEFORE THEY START ACQUIRING THE HABIT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  MANY PEOPLE HAVE ARGUED THAT THE

                    E-CIGARETTES ARE A HELPFUL TECHNIQUE OR MECHANISM OR PRODUCT THAT CAN

                    HELP AN ADDICTED SMOKER GRADUALLY REDUCE THEIR DEPENDENCE ON

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                    NICOTINE.  ARE E-CIGARETTES ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  THIS -- THIS IS VAPING, SO YES,

                    THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED, AS WELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE.  LAST, I ASSUME THAT THE THRUST

                    OF THIS BILL IS THAT BY MAKING THE PRODUCT ILLEGAL TO A LARGER GROUP OF

                    INDIVIDUALS, YOUR HOPE AND EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THE CONSUMPTION

                    OF THAT PRODUCT WOULD GO DOWN?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  ABSOLUTELY, BUT IN ADDITION,

                    APPROXIMATELY 75 PERCENT OF THE STATE'S RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY COVERED

                    BECAUSE COUNTIES AND LOCALITIES PASSED THEIR OWN BILLS.  SO, THIS IS ALSO

                    AN ATTEMPT TO HAVE ONE STATEWIDE PURCHASING AGE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND IS THE COROLLARY ALSO THEN TRUE,

                    IN YOUR MIND, THAT IF THE AVAILABILITY OF A PRODUCT IS MORE LEGAL AND

                    MORE AVAILABLE, THAT THE CONSUMPTION WILL GO UP?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  SAY IT AGAIN.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I'M SORRY?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  SAY IT AGAIN?  JUST -- I COULDN'T, I

                    COULDN'T HEAR IT, SORRY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I'M SORRY.  YOU MENTIONED THAT

                    YOUR BELIEF IS THAT IF WE MAKE THIS PRODUCT ILLEGAL TO BUY FOR ANYONE

                    UNDER 21 THAT CONSUMPTION WILL GO DOWN, AND I ASSUME THE FLIPSIDE IS

                    TRUE, THAT IF YOU MADE IT MORE READILY AVAILABLE, YOU WOULD EXPECT --

                    MORE LEGALLY AVAILABLE, YOU WOULD EXPECT THE CONSUMPTION TO GO UP?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  THAT HAS -- YES, THAT DOES HAVE

                    AN EFFECT, BUT THIS IS ON -- ON THE SELLER.  SO, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE

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                    TO DETERMINE IF IT'S LEGAL TO SELL TO THE PERSON.  IF THE PERSON IS UNABLE TO

                    OBTAIN IT, YES, THEIR CONSUMPTION MAY NOT START OR WILL GO DOWN.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND SO, WE CAN ANTICIPATE IF WE

                    LEGALIZE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, THE CONSUMPTION WILL LIKEWISE GO UP?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR

                    DEBATE ON THAT WHEN THAT BILL COMES TO THE FLOOR.  MINE CONCERNS

                    TOBACCO AND VAPING PRODUCTS.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  PERHAPS WE WILL.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  PERHAPS WE WILL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS.

                    ROSENTHAL.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YOU'RE WELCOME.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 MR. RAIA.

                                 MR. RAIA:  MR. SPEAKER, WILL THE SPONSOR YIELD FOR

                    JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. ROSENTHAL, WILL

                    YOU YIELD?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES, I WILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE SPONSOR WILL

                    YIELD.

                                 MR. RAIA:  THANK YOU, LINDA.  I'M GOING TO BE

                    VOTING YES ON THIS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE COUNTIES ALREADY HAVE

                    THE ABILITY TO DO THIS.  I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE TITLE UP THERE IS

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                    ACTUALLY RATHER DECEIVING BECAUSE IT SAYS IT INCREASES THE AGE TO

                    PURCHASE TOBACCO PRODUCTS FROM 18 YEARS OLD TO 21 YEARS OLD.  VAPE

                    PRODUCTS ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY TOBACCO IN THEM, CORRECT?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  OKAY.  I DON'T THINK THAT HAS ANY

                    EFFECT ON THE ULTIMATE LAW.

                                 MR. RAIA:  I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.  IF YOU READ

                    THAT AND YOU THOUGHT THAT PRODUCTS THAT DON'T -- THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY

                    PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T CONTAIN TOBACCO YOU CAN STILL PURCHASE UNDER 21,

                    THAT WOULD BE WRONG, RIGHT?  SO THIS NOT ONLY BANS TOBACCO PRODUCTS,

                    BUT IT BASICALLY BANS ALL NICOTINE PRODUCTS, CORRECT?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES, IT DOES.  YOU SEEM TO

                    UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN IF THAT'S MISLEADING.

                                 MR. RAIA:  NO. WELL, I JUST -- AGAIN, PEOPLE AT HOME

                    THAT MAY BE WATCHING US ON THE COMPUTER, MAY BE WATCHING ON TV, IF

                    THEY SEE THAT TITLE, THEY SHOULD BE AWARE THAT IT'S NOT JUST BANNING

                    TOBACCO PRODUCTS, IT'S ESSENTIALLY BANNING ANY PRODUCT WITH NICOTINE IN

                    IT.  AND THAT'S FINE, I GET IT, I JUST WANT FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES,

                    MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN HAVE A PROPER TITLE UP THERE THAT SAYS

                    "NICOTINE" INSTEAD OF "TOBACCO", BECAUSE THERE IS, IN FACT, NO TOBACCO IN

                    VAPE PRODUCTS.  THANK YOU, LINDA, I APPRECIATE IT.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YOU'RE WELCOME.

                                 MR. RAIA:  ON THE BILL, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, MR. RAIA.

                                 MR. RAIA:  AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'LL BE VOTING YES

                    ON THIS.  MANY OF THE MANUFACTURERS OF -- OF -- OF VAPE PRODUCTS AND

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                    EVEN SOME CIGARETTE MANUFACTURERS ALSO SUPPORT RAISING THE AGE TO 21

                    SO THEY CAN SHOW THAT THEY'RE, IN FACT, NOT ACTUALLY TRYING TO MARKET TO

                    PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 21.  I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ONE CURIOUS THING

                    IS YOU CAN GET ELECTED TO THE STATE ASSEMBLY AT THE AGE OF 18 AND

                    ACTUALLY VOTE ON LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTS YOU, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN -- YOU

                    WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY

                    DEBATE HERE ON THE FLOOR.  SO, IT'S KIND OF -- I JUST FIND IT KIND OF

                    INTERESTING.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MR. RAIA.

                                 MS. GLICK.

                                 MS. GLICK:  WHEN I PUT ON MY LIGHT, I DID SO

                    BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE OBJECTIONS TO THIS

                    LEGISLATION.  AND SO, ON THE BILL, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS

                    TO ENSURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE DO NOT, BECAUSE OF PEER PRESSURE, START TO

                    SMOKE.  THEY NEED TO HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY CAN THINK MORE

                    CLEARLY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.  I SEE AN INCREASE OF SMOKING LATELY,

                    CERTAINLY NICOTINE PRODUCTS ARE -- THROUGH VAPING ARE RAMPANT, AND IT IS

                    AN ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE THAT WE KNOW CAN CAUSE CANCER.  AND PEOPLE

                    FIND IT VERY HARD.  IF YOU ASK PEOPLE, OH, GEE, DID YOU STOP SMOKING?

                    YEAH, ABOUT SIX TIMES.

                                 SO, HAVING LOST A SIBLING TO LUNG CANCER BECAUSE OF AN

                    ADDICTION TO SMOKING, I THINK THIS IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT.  IF I HAD MY

                    WAY, IT WOULD NOT BE A LEGAL SUBSTANCE BECAUSE IT HAS CAUSED SO MUCH

                    DEVASTATION TO SO MANY FAMILIES AND AN ENORMOUS COST TO US AND THE

                    HEALTH CARE SYSTEM TO TRY TO SAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEVELOPED CANCER

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF SMOKING CIGARETTES.  SO, I WANT TO THANK THE

                    SPONSOR FOR THE BILL AND HOPE THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY NEGATIVE VOTES UP

                    ON THE BOARD.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. SALKA.

                                 MR. SALKA:  WILL THE SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. ROSENTHAL, WILL

                    YOU YIELD?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES.

                                 MR. SALKA:  I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE,

                    AND THIS IS COMING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WHO IS A

                    REGISTERED RESPIRATORY THERAPIST AND A SMOKING CESSATION COUNSELOR

                    NOW FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS AND I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP MANY,

                    MANY PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS QUIT SMOKING.  AND I'VE SEEN THE RAVAGES

                    AT BEDSIDE AND IN THEIR COMMUNITIES FROM CIGARETTE SMOKING.  AND I'LL

                    BE VOTING YES ON THIS LEGISLATION, BUT ONE QUESTION I HAVE, IN PARTICULAR,

                    IS WILL THIS LAW APPLY TO OUR SOVEREIGN INDIAN NATIONS WHO HAVE A VERY

                    ROBUST SALES OF CIGARETTES?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WELL, THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT ON

                    -- ON THOSE LANDS, SO...

                                 MR. SALKA:  OKAY.  AND -- AND -- OKAY.  THANK

                    YOU.  AND ALSO, IS THERE ANY -- ANY PART OF THIS BILL THAT ADDRESSES A VERY

                    IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF SMOKING CESSATION, AND THAT'S EDUCATION.  I'VE

                    FOUND THROUGH THE YEARS THAT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO HELP,

                    ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE, QUIT SMOKING IS - OR NOT TO START - IS

                    EDUCATION.  AND IF IT DOESN'T, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO GO.

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                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES, I -- IT'S NOT CONTAINED IN

                    THIS BILL, BUT YES, EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN

                    START THE HABIT.  BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A TOBACCO CONTROL FUND

                    WHOSE MISSION IS TO EDUCATE -- PART OF THE MISSION IS TO EDUCATE.  AND

                    SO, YES, I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, BUT NOT IN THIS BILL.

                                 MR. SALKA:  THANK YOU, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR

                    SPONSORSHIP OF THIS VERY VALUABLE BILL.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. ROSENTHAL.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  AS OF TODAY, SEVEN STATES AND

                    MORE THAN 440 LOCALITIES NATIONWIDE HAVE ENACTED LAWS RAISING THE AGE

                    TO PURCHASE TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO 21 YEARS OLD.  IN NEW YORK STATE,

                    NEW YORK CITY TOOK THE FIRST STEP IN 2013.  SINCE THEN, 25 DIFFERENT

                    LOCALITIES HAVE DONE THE SAME.  NATIONAL DATA TELLS US THAT

                    APPROXIMATELY 95 PERCENT OF ADULT SMOKERS BEGAN BEFORE THE AGE OF 21,

                    AND MANY OF THOSE CHILDREN GO ON TO BECOME REGULAR SMOKERS.  BIG

                    TOBACCO HAS USED ADVERTISING TECHNIQUES TO LURE YOUNG PEOPLE IN, TO

                    MAKE SMOKING LOOK LIKE AN ATTRACTIVE HABIT AND WE'RE SEEING THE SAME

                    SCENARIO PLAY OUT WITH NEW ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE COMPANIES.

                                 BY DELAYING THE AGE WHEN A PERSON PICKS UP THAT FIRST

                    CIGARETTE, WE ARE ABLE TO GREATLY DECREASE THE CHANCES OF IT TURNING INTO

                    AN ADDICTION, AND BIG TOBACCO KNOWS THIS.  THEY TARGET YOUNG PEOPLE

                    BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BECOME FUTURE REGULAR CUSTOMERS.  A

                    RESEARCHER FOR THE R.J. REYNOLDS TOBACCO COMPANY ONCE STATED, IF A

                    MAN - FORGET THE WOMAN - IF A MAN HAS NEVER SMOKED BY AGE 18, THE

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                    ODDS ARE 3-1 HE NEVER WILL.  BY AGE 24, THE ODDS ARE 20-1.  SO, WE ARE

                    TAKING THAT -- THAT WISE STATEMENT AND BANNING THE AGE OF PURCHASE TO

                    21.

                                 YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MANY, MANY

                    ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DEVOTED THEIR MISSION, THEIR RESOURCES TO, INCLUDING

                    THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, ACTION NETWORK, AMERICAN HEART

                    ASSOCIATION, AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, AMERICAN NONSMOKERS'

                    RIGHTS, CAMPAIGN FOR TOBACCO-FREE KIDS, THE CHILDREN'S AGENDA,

                    CHILDREN'S DEFENSE FUND NEW YORK, CITIZENS' COMMITTEE FOR CHILDREN

                    -- ON AND ON, HEALTH CARE ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK, MEMORIAL SLOAN

                    KETTERING, ROSWELL PARK COMPREHENSIVE CANCER CENTER, UNIVERSITY OF

                    ROCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, NEW YORK STATE ACADEMY OF FAMILY

                    PHYSICIANS.  IT GOES ON AND ON BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT TOBACCO AND

                    THE NICOTINE CAN CAUSE YOUR DEATH.  AND IT'S A GREAT PUBLIC COST, BUT IT IS

                    A GREAT COST TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHEN THEY'VE PICKED UP THE

                    HABIT, IT'S VERY HARD TO QUIT.

                                 SO, AS A FORMER SMOKER I KNOW THAT AND THAT'S WHY I'M

                    ADVOCATING TO RAISE THE AGE TO 21 TO SPARE A NEW GENERATION OF PEOPLE

                    FROM BECOMING HOOKED AND THEN HAVING TO QUIT OR NOT QUITTING AND

                    BECOMING SERIOUSLY ILL.  SO, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND THAT'S IT, I

                    THINK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 120TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

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                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. ORTIZ TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. ORTIZ:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I WOULD LIKE

                    TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR AND ALSO THE SPEAKER FOR BRINGING THIS GREAT

                    PIECE OF LEGISLATION TODAY ON THE FLOOR.  THIS BILL, MR. SPEAKER, IS ABOUT

                    PUBLIC HEALTH.  INCREASING THE TOBACCO AGE TO 21 WILL HELP TO PREVENT

                    YOUNG PEOPLE FROM EVER STARTING TO SMOKE AND REDUCE THE DEATH, THE

                    DISEASE AND ESPECIALLY THE HEALTH CARE COST CAUSED BY TOBACCO AND THE

                    USING OF IT.  SO, MR. SPEAKER, I WITHDRAW MY VOTE AND I WILL BE VOTING

                    IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. ORTIZ IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. ASHBY TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. ASHBY:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE TO

                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD BE A

                    CARVE-OUT FOR MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, LIKE FORT

                    DRUM, WHO HAS THE HISTORY, YOU KNOW, MOST RECENTLY, OF BEING ONE OF

                    THE MOST DEPLOYED UNITS OVER THERE WITH THE 10TH MOUNTAIN DIVISION,

                    RAPIDLY DEPLOYING SOLDIERS IN THE DEFENSE OF OUR FREEDOMS HERE SO WE

                    CAN ALL COME TO WORK TODAY.  I DON'T -- I THINK IT'S -- I THINK IT'S A LARGE

                    OVERREACH FOR -- FOR THIS BODY TO DENY SOLDIERS WILLING TO DEFEND OUR

                    FREEDOMS OVERSEAS THE RIGHT TO BUY A PACK OF CIGARETTES BEFORE THEY GO

                    OVER TO DEPLOY.  AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE VOTING IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. ASHBY IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

                                 MS. FAHY TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. FAHY:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO

                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  AND I WANT TO START BY COMMENDING THE SPONSOR OF

                    THIS LEGISLATION.  WHILE I CAME OF AGE IN THE ERA WHEN WE WANTED TO

                    LOWER THE AGE TO HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO TOBACCO, AND I CAN REMEMBER MY

                    HIGH SCHOOL ALLOWING TOBACCO USE RIGHT OUT ON THE -- THE HIGH SCHOOL

                    PATIO.  WE'VE LEARNED A LOT IN RECENT DECADES ON THE HARM OF TOBACCO

                    USE AND THE STUDIES ARE SHOWING MORE AND MORE, AS WERE POINTED OUT IN

                    THE DEBATE -- THE STUDIES ARE SHOWING THAT THE EARLIER THE ACCESS, THE

                    GREATER THE ADDICTION OR THE LONGER TERM THE ADDICTION TO -- TO NICOTINE.

                    AND MORE ALARMING, I THINK, IS JUST IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THESE ABSOLUTE

                    EXPONENTIAL INCREASES IN THE USE OF VAPING, NOT JUST AMONG OUR HIGH

                    SCHOOL STUDENTS, BUT AMONG MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, TO THE POINT OF

                    WHERE I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SUPERINTENDENT I'VE MET WITH THIS PAST

                    YEAR THAT HASN'T RAISED GREAT ALARM.

                                 WHILE THIS DOESN'T IMMEDIATELY STOP THAT USE, THIS IS

                    VERY SIMILAR TO ALCOHOL, TO VAPING, TO MARIJUANA, TO TOBACCO, THE MORE

                    WE CAN LIMIT THE ACCESS AND ALONG WITH PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS,

                    AND THE LONGER WE GET YOUTH TO HOLD OFF IN INDULGING IN ANY OF THESE

                    TYPES OF PRODUCTS, THE MORE EDUCATED THEY WILL BE AND THE LONGER THEY

                    HOLD OFF, EVEN THE LESS LIKELIHOOD WE'LL SEE -- WE'LL SEE THAT DRAMATIC

                    INCREASE, AS THE SPONSOR POINTED OUT -- OR WE'LL SEE THAT HEAVY TYPE OF

                    USAGE.

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                                 SO, WE KNOW THIS DOESN'T STOP THE IMMEDIATE USE, BUT

                    WE DO KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAVE AN EFFECT WITH LIMITING ACCESS, AND I

                    THINK IN THE END THAT'S GOOD FOR KIDS, EVEN IF -- EVEN IF IT WON'T CURE THE

                    PROBLEM OVERNIGHT.  SO WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I RISE AND I VOTE IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE, AND THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. FAHY IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. RAIA TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. RAIA:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, TO EXPLAIN MY

                    VOTE.  AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE WE CAN

                    TAKE SENSIBLE MEASURES TO KEEP OUR YOUTH FROM -- FROM GETTING THEIR

                    HANDS ON ALCOHOL, ON TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT MAY BE

                    BAD FOR THEM, BUT ADULTS CAN ENJOY RECREATIONAL.  WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING

                    TO HAVE AN ISSUE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO LEGALIZING MARIJUANA, BUT THE

                    BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S STEPS LIKE THIS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE, AND THEN MAYBE

                    STRONGER LAWS TO KEEP KIDS FROM GETTING IT, HIGHER PENALTIES FOR THOSE

                    THAT SELL TO OUR YOUTH, BETTER ID CHECKS.  THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE

                    SHOULD DO FIRST BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT FLAT OUT BANNING CERTAIN PRODUCTS.

                    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. RAIA IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05779, RULES REPORT

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                    NO. 37, RYAN, ORTIZ, ENGLEBRIGHT, L. ROSENTHAL, EPSTEIN, GRIFFIN,

                    COLTON, GALEF, THIELE, GOTTFRIED.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO THE DEFINITION OF ELEVATED BLOOD LEAD LEVELS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. RYAN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. RYAN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WE ALL KNOW

                    THAT CHILDHOOD LEAD EXPOSURE CAUSES PERMANENT NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGES,

                    SO NEW YORK STATE HAS TAKEN SEVERAL STEPS IN AN ATTEMPT TO REDUCE

                    CHILDHOOD LEAD POISONING.  IN 1992, WE PASSED THE LEAD POISONING

                    PREVENTION ACT WHICH SET THE DEFINITION OF LEAD POISONING AT TEN

                    MICROGRAMS OF LEAD IN A CHILD'S BLOODSTREAM.  THAT LEVEL WAS BASED ON

                    THE BEST AVAILABLE SCIENCE AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CDC.

                                 SINCE THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN MORE RESEARCH DONE,

                    ONGOING RESEARCH, AND NOW IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT FIVE MICROGRAMS

                    OF LEAD IN A BLOODSTREAM CAN CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE.  AND IN

                    2012, THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL, THEY CHANGED THEIR

                    RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STATE AND THEY ASKED THE STATE TO REDUCE THESE

                    LEVELS FROM TEN TO FIVE.  NEW YORK STATE'S BEEN LAGGING BEHIND ON THAT.

                    TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO CATCH UP AND THIS BILL WOULD RESET THE ACTUAL

                    LEVEL FOR CHILDHOOD LEAD POISONING DOWN TO FIVE MICROGRAMS, AND THAT'S

                    A GOOD STEP FORWARD IN TRYING TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE FROM THE

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                    HAZARDS OF LEAD POISONING.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, I WITHDRAW MY REQUEST AND I VOTE IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. RYAN IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  I DO REMEMBER BACK

                    IN THE EARLY '90S THAT AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER WHEN WE FOUGHT ALL

                    ACROSS THE STATE, WORKING WITH PARENTS OF CHILDREN WHO HAD BEEN LEAD

                    POISONED TO GET THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN PLACE THAT HAPPENED IN

                    1992.  AND AT THE TIME, MR. RYAN IS EXACTLY RIGHT.  THE SCIENCE WAS

                    TELLING US AT THE TIME THAT TEN MILLIGRAMS WAS TOO MUCH TO HAVE AND

                    THAT WE SHOULD START THERE.

                                 TIMES HAVE CHANGED, AND WE KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT

                    THE IMPACT OF LEAD ON CHILDREN'S LIVES.  WE, IN FACT, KNOW NOW, MR.

                    SPEAKER, THAT THIS IMPACT HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM,

                    INTO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.  AND A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH

                    CHILDREN'S ACADEMICS HAVE NOT TO DO WITH THEIR INABILITY TO LEARN, BUT

                    THE FACT THAT THEY WERE POISONED AS CHILDREN WITH LEAD.

                                 AND SO, I WANT TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR OF THIS

                    LEGISLATION.  I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO CHANGE THE NUMBERS ON IT AND I

                    LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES

                    IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

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                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  COULD YOU CALL ON MR. OTIS FOR AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. OTIS FOR THE

                    PURPOSES OF A [SIC] ANNOUNCEMENT.

                                 MR. OTIS:  IT'S WEDNESDAY.  IT IS 24 DEGREES OUTSIDE

                    AND THERE'LL BE A DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE UPON THE CONCLUSION OF

                    SESSION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU FOR THOSE

                    INFORMATIVE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO WE

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  RESOLUTIONS WE DO

                    HAVE.  ON THE RESOLUTIONS, WHICH WE WILL TAKE UP WITH ONE VOTE, ON THE

                    RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; THOSE OPPOSED, NO.

                    THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 153-154

                    WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I NOW

                    MOVE THAT THE ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL TOMORROW AT 10 A.M.,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MARCH 6, 2019

                    THURSDAY, MARCH THE 7TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 2:50 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD

                    ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, MARCH 7TH AT 10:00 A.M., THURSDAY BEING A

                    SESSION DAY.)







































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